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Scopes - Shepard:

another lurker surfaces! inherited a shepard scope with a remington 700police that I just could not pass up. It seems to do exactly what it should out to 200 meters, which is the longest range available to me right now. Does anyone have any experience with the shepard? I invite all comments, please. Have not worked with any scope with the mil-dot system, and wonder if the shepard compares with this system at all. Rod Ryan, your courses sound interesting, they are a long way from the western sea around Seattle. Is there a website associated with stormmountain, I have not checked.

scott woodbury <>
wa, USA - Friday, January 29, 1999 at 05:47:48 (ZULU) 

Shepards; Well I've been interested in that system they use for a long time. The 2nd crosshair is a great idea and there can be nothing simpler for range estimation. No slide rules to carry! The only thing is they just didn't go the full mile in building it. It has a reputation for not holding together. I've never heard anyone say that it did not shoot according to plan but the one's I've looked through lack a little in lense quality and that stuff tends to clog the visability. The company is a bear to deal with and dealers won't stock them much. I never saw over 2 in one place. I think it is the fact that you have to use only 1 caliber with the scope. Change caliber and you have to buy another $600 scope. If Leupold or someone would do it I think it would sell like hot cakes. I would like to see squares instead of circles though on that cross hair.

B.Rogers <>
USA - Friday, January 29, 1999 at 14:45:10 (ZULU) 

I have had a lot of experience with the Shepard scopes. I had one on my 300WM. It does all it was advertised to do but it had a short eye relief and would "Bite" you when shooting prone or off the bench. The other problem is the circles are so close in size after 600yds its hard to tell for sure which one to use. I loaded my 190s to 2900fps and shot it at 100yd intervals out to 700yds and it put 12 out of 16 rounds into a 4.5" circle on a silhouette target. I found it to be very quick and easy to use once its adjusted. I would have liked to try one on a 308. Hope this helps.
Pat <>
USA - Friday, January 29, 1999 at 15:02:40 (ZULU) 
Amgoing to give up on the Shepherd. Comments posted earlier are well made. Cluttered reticle, coarse lines, and average optics. I think it would be a fine hunting scope, tho. Am leaning towards the VariX-III LR, previous threads seem to find it at least acceptable. Any comments in comparison to the MK4's other than price?
scott <>
wa, USA - Sunday, January 31, 1999 at 07:28:17 (ZULU) 
The person who refered to changing his Shepherd scope over to a "traditional" tactical (i.e. Leopold, B/L, etc.) is a very wise choice. Although the Shepherd is great for hunting and does pretty much what it says, I feel it still can not compete with the optics of the types of scopes mentioned above. Several of my friends in Montana did use Shepherds on their STW's and have great result. Anyway they did until I brought up some of the rifles I have with the Leopold and B/L Tactical. Needless to say they switched over. You really have to compare them side by side before you can a good realization how good these high end tactical scopes really are.

Al "the Fly Boy" O.
Al Ostapowicz <>
Clint is still my Hero in these Hall of Justice in , By Gawd O-Hi-ER, USA - Sunday, January 31, 1999 at 12:00:54 (ZULU) 

If I don't like the NP1 scope, I will change it for a Sheperd or
US optics. Has anyone here had any experience with the
Nightforce scope. I would apprerciate coments good or bad.
Good board Guys, I really like it.

Thor <>
Conyers, Georgia, USA - Tuesday, February 02, 1999 at 01:57:35 (ZULU) 

Thor: I have a Shepherd on my rem700p... I am definitely in the market for a diferent scope. I think it would work ok hunting, but I do not like it for serious social wear. Now, to fess up, I have not had an chance to shoot it at more than 200 yards. At 100 the reticle is really busy, and I had to crank the LR reticle down out of the way to really see target dots for load development. I think the stadia lines are way to coarse. I have several other scopes that are way brighter under the same conditions, and suspect that the optics are not really top of the line. That having been said, it works and is better than a lot of things that I have peered thru. I just think for the application that we are considering there are some better things out there for similar dollars. I am a newbie at the extended long range stuff, so someone may know better than I, real experience stuff.
seeya bye
scott <>
wa, USA - Tuesday, February 02, 1999 at 06:10:10 (ZULU) 



Im the market for a scope and just saw an add in the GUN LIST for Shepherd Scopes. Does anybody here have any opinion or experience with these scopes?

They have a quote from gun test magazine saying they "recommend it over the rest" Are these scopes a magic bullet that aint so magic, or do they really work? Never heard any of you regulars speak of them so thought I'd get your opinion. The add is on Page 131 of the August 4, 2000 edition.

Rick <>
Omaha, NE, USA - Friday, August 11, 2000 at 17:22:32 (ZULU) (your host address:


I'd pass on the Shephard scopes, Gun Tests ain't sniper/tactical shooting related. Some reviews are good, some make me really wonder!
Leupold Tacticals, Bausch & Lombs discontinued 10x Tactical, or even a Taaa, Taas, TTTaaasco would be a better bet.

BIG CITY, BY-GAWD, USA - Saturday, August 12, 2000 at 03:07:27 (ZULU) (your host address:

Rick; the Sheperd is a little shy on optics and there are odd parallax's between all those range rings, The view is cluttered but those rings work for sighting and it is much faster than MIl dots for the average bear. It breaks too often and costs too much. I wish a good serious scope maker would use the same system and build it right. Sheperd in my experience is arrogant if you you have a problem and assumes it has to be you or something stupid you have done. Until they change their attitude with dealers and users they are doomed to sell Sheperds in piss aunt quanities. I guess sheep herders just can't build good scopes!

Try the Night Force model with the ranging rings. It's much better all around except the rings are not located vertical and it is slower as is the Springfield. The Springfield has mixed reviews, people I know and trust have praised it and others have condemned it. I wish I had tried it.

Bill Rogers <>
USA - Saturday, August 12, 2000 at 04:46:13 (ZULU) (your host address:

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