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Ammunition - general comments:

I have a 1 in 12 twist 308 tactical with a Hart heavy barrel and it shoots the 168s and 155s into .3s or under all day long. I tried some Berger 175 VLDs in it and they shot into .3 and 4s at 100yds and I then tried them at 400yds and they shot into .6 MOA and I was pleased with this until I shot the 155s which were under .5 MOA and 4 were in .25 MOA!! So I have to agree with what you say . Would you believe I let my kid talk me out of this rifle!!!
Pat <>
USA - Saturday, January 02, 1999 at 14:41:44 (EST) 
The 175 Sierra is an extrmemely good bullet. In my .308 Krieger 1 in 13" .298 - .3065 machine rest barrel, I've shot quite a lot of these bullets, mainly Federal .308M2, in a mid-production test about a year ago for federal. I don't recall the exact figures but the average was certainly under 1/2 minute at 500 yards. In two tests of ten rounds of handloaded ammunition, each test was exactly 1/4 minute
or 1 1/4". Very impressive!

Bill Wylde <>
IL USA - Sunday, January 03, 1999 at 17:45:21 (EST) 

About VLD's and custom bullets in general. Guys VLD's are very sensitive to any change. Powder or O.A.L to name a few. They seldom do well in a magazine length loading. They offer better long range performance but are specialized. A sniper needs one round to do it all. Stope looking for a 1/4 minute less drift and spend time on the trigger. No one has ever one a N.M.title with a balistic chart and Carlos did very well without two or three different bullets to pack and track.

Calif., USA - Saturday, January 23, 1999 at 03:06:25 (ZULU) 

Surplus .308 ammo-- in case anyone is interested. I bought some Hirtenberger and some Norma surplus .308, figuring it would be the best of what was being offered. Some of the other offerings were from countries that, well, you just wouldn't expect their ammo to be the greatest. Both came packaged 20/box, but upon opening the Swedish stuff, I found that it was delinked MG ammo-- looked like it had been in a belt on top of a tank in the weather for some time. It wasn't so bad as to be unuseable or unsafe, though. I think they probably had tumble-cleaned it prior to reboxing it. Not shiny and new, but not a bad deal at .14/round. You could hit oranges with it at 100 yds, but I wouldn't use it on cherry tomatoes. The Hirt is clean and new looking, also .14 or .15/rd. I haven't fired it in anything but a FAL yet, and that was not off the bench, so I can't yet comment on how it groups. I will try to get a few out of a VSSF over the weekend and report back. Both varieties use steel jacketed bullets.
Ned <>
3R, MI, USA - Wednesday, January 27, 1999 at 03:12:12 (ZULU)

308 Shooters,

If you haven't tried 155 Palma Matchkings yet you should. With a number of good powders you can get 2900fps with great accuracy, especialy if you have a 1 in 12" twist barrel. With a 300 yard zero it will drop about 14 inches less at 600 yards than Fed 168 match ammo, and a full five feet less at 1,000 yards. I personally have not had a chance to shoot them on a 1,000 yard range yet, but many people have with great results.
Tom B.
Tom B. <>
USA - Thursday, January 28, 1999 at 03:16:03 (ZULU) 

I shot the 155 palmas in my 308 and they shot very well, I was using Varget and pushing them even faster than 2900fps. I believe they were designed to stay supersonic at 1000yds.
Pat <>
USA - Thursday, January 28, 1999 at 03:46:40 (ZULU) 

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